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"We are not going to fix Afghanistan. It is not possible. These are people who have spent several thousand years hating foreigners...And there are some problems where you have to say,'You know you are going to have to figure out how to live your own miserable life, because you clearly don't want to learn from me how to be un-miserable." Newt Gingrich.
Holy shit..who woulda thunk it?...But I do...I fucking agree.. Someone once said we should bomb them back to the stone ages. Hello..that would be an improvement. The only thing we can do..is GET THE FUCK OUT OF DODGE.. This message was paid for by the Committee to Keep America out of phony wars and I Jackie Denney, approve this message.
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Did Hell just freeze over?????
The only reason your agreeing with Newt is that he is stealing the progressive position on Afghanistan and war in general. If they had followed through on the initial victory there and not moved on to a war in Iraq we would have had our troops home alive and happy a long time ago.
Not all problems are solvable by means that we're willing to accept. We pay people to solve those problems for us, and not to tell us how they did it.
In one of Jan Morris's books about the British Empire she talks about Afghanistan over a 100 years ago under the British - tribal warfare, war lords, double crossing allies, nefarious local governments, a British garrison abandoning its post - a caravan of 2000 people - men, women and children - and only 2 people survived - the others victims of terrorists en route. Do we learn? Nope.
The only problem with Newt's comment is that he is assuming our system is better than their's - shows how little he understands of the world beyond the confines of his own small portion of it.
I have to agree with Nitty on this one....Newt is just back pedalling to save his dragging ass, and people are still dying.
I actually agree with the Newt on several issues. I agree on something will all of those nuts for that matter. It's the many, many things we disagree on that scares me, particularly Neutron Newt and Ricky Scrotum. My man is Buddy Roemer.
Newt has, on occasion, had a few rationale thoughts. He tries hard to keep them well hidden.
Afghanistan? It takes ONE WORD from guess who, to stop it all.
ONE man, ONE word.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Some things never change, including the people of Afghanistan and countries like them.
I don't even know who Newt is but he is right on that one, I wholeheartedly agree with him. We have troops there too and have lost too many of them.
To start with, we are fighting the wrong damned people - the Taliban.
The focus should be al-Qaeda - and,
we have done well in that effort.
OBL is dead and the network has been decimated. The Taliban are Karzai's problem and the only solution over there is a political
compromise with the Islamic fundalmentalist. Besides, Karzai
is stealing us blind and we are not going to win the hearts and minds game - We are seen as the new Russians by the Afghans - Infidels on Arab soil. And, we will continue to come home in boxes, or maimed and crippled until we have the wisdom to do
what the Soviets did and get the
hell out of that country.
Sarge
Indianapolis
Wizardess beat me to it -- I had the same thought about even a stopped clock being right twice a day.
Newt does occasionally say something sane, usually when he's not running for office. If he's sounding sane now (even if it's only on Afghanistan) it could be a sign he's figured out he's not going to be campaigning much longer.
It's always scary when someone who is wrong in so many ways says something you agree with. What is truly scary is that the times we are really shocked is when they speak the truth!!
WOW! Talk about The Man Who Knew Too Much. The Khazakh/Papist cabal will NEVER let someone like that become President.
It IS true though: Shitstainistan is a MASSIVE waste of time, money and lives, and ANOTHER clusterfuck we need to get out of.
Even crazies have moments of sanity (I should know). I couldn't agree more with you, and the jackass.
It's probably the Oxy talking, in regards to Newt. Wait for five and he'll do something stupid again. Trust me.
Newt talks endlessly so, like those thousands of monkeys that create Shakepeare prose, he has to be "right" at least on very rare occassion.
I would never vote for him - but we really need to get out of Iraq and Affyland and stay out of Iran).
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